Originally Posted by hockeypilot44

Last year my buddy's final W-2 at Southwest was 50 percent higher than mine. We were hired within a few months of each other. This contract is industry leading pay wise if you take Fedex, UPS, and Southwest out of the equation. Put those three airlines in there and we will be close to their current rates in 2 1/2 years. Our work rules are no where close to industry leading. Southwest still has a 6 hour ADG. We now have a 4:30 ADG. This is just one of many. Jetblue has premium pay for anything over 80 hours. It would probably make those 99 hour forced reserve months more tolerable if we had this. I am a no vote though based on scope and pay. My survery number was 99 percent. It would not let me put a number in any higher. My true number would have been 35 up front. To get a yes vote out of me, the company would have to give me 20 percent up front, followed by 5 percent per year, no concessions in any part of our scope or the entire contract for that matter, and reserves paid like lineholders. Those are my minimums to vote yes. Also full retro pay if we go past the amendable date. The more complicated something is, the better chance there is of someone trying to slip something passed us. If we stop pretending to be managers and look at this for what it is, it should be a 90 percent NO VOTE. This thing does not meet one single minimum of mine. I'm guessing it doesn't meet anyone else's minimums prior to seeing it either. You yes voters are just lowering your standards. I feel my minimums are pretty realistic. I wanted this thing to pass...until I saw that first negotiating notepad letting us know that we are making concessions.