Originally Posted by Carl Spackler

The company has also spent much time and resources to negotiate a deal with us 8 months before our contract is amendable. Why would they do that Ferd? And when you answer that to your own satisfaction, ask yourself why they would have wasted those resources because they're too stubborn and need to show the pilots who's boss?

They know our process as well as we do. They know full well that a NO vote is possible. Thus, they would have been FOOLISH to give us their real bottom line on the first try. We'll be even more foolish if we take it.

Carl

Originally Posted by Ferd149

Well of course I 'could be' wrong, I just doubt I am. For one thing, we both know these guys.....you know they want to show us who's boss, these are our sharks not the nice southern species

But seriously, they are willing to go direct if they can but they are also more than willing to stay on the published route. But, as to your point, remember they have shown how much they love us with the JCBA, how did the second offer look. I stand by my opinion.....there is no way they are going to show other employee groups that they are more flexibile with a union than if you don't have one.

I suggest we consult with our buddy Jack. He knows all and will lead us to total truth by the end of the evening. Too bad he charges so much in the Sports Bar for such consultation

Ferd

Originally Posted by Ferd149

Hi Carl,

Part two. Got to thinking more this morning and thought I'd drop ya another line. Was going to send a PM, but what the heck.

I'm sure you're tired of reading my poker analogy (I don't think you can just get one of your down cards swapped, you have to wait for the next hand). I don't like my cards either. But, they are good enough for something this short and I'm willing to call the pot and see the next card (or what RA is in such a hurry about)

But, I also got to thinking why I'm willing to do that. There are so many great arguments as to why I'm wrong and I do listen and think about what has been said. So I came down to a military analogy for you.

I trust RA, I think he is a horse like say Patton in France or Grant in Virginia or Sherman.....wait never mind. We are headed into a dark forest and RA wants to attack "something" we just can't see it yet. Guys around me have VERY LEGITIMATE CONCERNS about flanks, supply lines and air cover. I'm not sure either, but based on past performance I'm willing to follow him into the forest. I've got my eyes closed but I'm walking forward

As I said, I think RA is a horse and I think he is going to make us some money. Some of his minions??.....I agree, watch your wallet!!

Ferd