Old 06-15-2012 | 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by bigbusdriver
I seriously doubt the negotiating team from the union accepted RA's first offer.

But you do make a good point about keeping your bottom line VERY close to your vest. That's why I don't understand the few that keep insisting on publication of the pilot contract survey.

I NEVER want management to know precisely what is the cheapest package they need to deliver to buy a 50%+1 vote.
You're missing my point bigbus. My point is that all parties understand our process, and all parties understand that any TA requires a ratification of the membership. I'm not disputing this round of negotiations had give and take. I'm sure it did. It also had a considerable amount of lying on both sides...they always do.

My point is that RA knows any TA must be member ratified, thus he would have been foolish to give his bottom line in the very first TA. There's no way I would have done it. I would have told DALPA that it's my last best offer and I'll see you at the NMB. If you blink, I win big for my shareholders. If you call my bluff, I'd engage you in a second round and scream that you're stealing us blind the whole time. It sounds like a game, but it's just business. Negotiations 101.

Carl