Originally Posted by
LeineLodge
Do you dispute my math or assumptions? Are you saying you want the reps to tell you what to do? You need Wall Street to howl over our pay to think it's good enough? You WANT DCI pilots filing injunctions (despite what Carl might have you believe, this is not a possibility given the TA)?
Again, dispute my math if you can. How does that result in similar w2's? I see a 5 year 88 FO making nearly 25k more/year using the assumptions I listed above. Bigger aircraft/seats will see similar or better results. Reserve pilots benefit even more. How does voting NO provide for more (not just talking about $)?
Why don't you take a look at the LAX B lines. Almost everyone is working 14-18 days a month. And in comparison to SWA (which by the way still has line of time bidding (no PBS), trips touching for vacation, 150% for their equivalent of white slips) the average F/O works 12-13 days/month for their $130K/year and we're still not even close to their contract in 2015 (without any pay increases to their current contract). And oh by the way, they have some 12 year Captains (I know they're probably going to stagnate going forward but we're talking about today). I still don't (even in the most optimistic scenario that YES advocates are talking about), as a 2000 hire, expect to make Captain at DAL before I retire in 10 years - that is 22 years as a Delta First Officer when I was told at my interview that "Delta hires Captains" - I guess they don't need many Captains anymore (or you need to get hired at 30 to make Captain at DAL). This contract doesn't come close to the supposed goal of SWA+ and don't tell me that this is the best we can do and be happy about it - we lost all our leverage when the NC agreed to a TA and sent it to the MEC - once the company got that I believe any chance of improvements was lost. I believe we were fed a line by Tim O and the MEC when they said if we couldn't get a contract that met our goals we would resort to the traditional route - they admitted that this fell short in a number of areas and they agreed to it any way.