I feel the same way. We CAN agree on something!

I AM willing to consider both sides of the argument. I just haven't seen any compelling evidence that says we will be screwed if we sign this TA. In fact, my analysis leads me to believe that we are more vulnerable WITHOUT the TA than with it. The JV and Codeshare language are clear wins. Holding Company language is another one. Would I like to see RAH cut out completely? Sure! Unfortunately we aren't going to get everything we want.

Can Delta continue to shrink? Sure. There is nothing we can do to stop it. At least under the TA, DCI will shrink with us, not grow at our expense. There are so many good things in the TA that you refuse to acknowledge, that it makes your dissenting viewpoint shallow. I fully acknowledge the many negatives in the TA. I just feel the many positives outweigh it, in the end.

Trust but verify is great, but if you can't verify (we can't ever fully know what's going to happen) then the best you can do is make your best call based on real information. I won't be scared of making a decision simply because we've been spanked in the past. Inaction could very well be worse than taking a less-than-hoped-for deal.

A lot of what's being posted here and emailed around is simply bad information. I have no problem with you voting NO. I'm closer than you think to changing my vote, but if I do it will be based solely on factual information. Not hypothetical conspiracy theories, or even worse a deeply flawed slide show presentation (that many on here latched onto as if it were handed down on a mountaintop.)

I'm happy to debate the TA with you, but help me out. Let's start with what do you view as positives in the TA?