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Old 06-23-2012 | 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by SailorJerry
FYI Carl - I am a Delta line pilot. In a former life I was an ALPA guy, and in-between stints as an ALPA guy, I was a cubicle jockey. I did analysis of the exact subject matter that we're debating. It can be your facts vs. my facts though. That's fine. I don't need you to pay attention to me. And the company doesn't owe you anything. It's business. Always has been, always will be. If you want to repay yourself your 50% and your lost pension, the only way to get it is going to be as a management guy - which I don't think I will ever do again. Will you? I don't need to listen to you either. Nor does anyone else, nor would anyone else in "real life" where the rest of us live. All of us have valid arguments for our position but yours is honestly a statistical outlier and the sooner the outliers are contained the sooner we can get this group unified.
Gonna have to disagree with you on that one Jerr,

I don't consider Carl to be a "Outlier" in the least, he may get a little carried away on here from time to time, but I think most of us are guilty of that.

Group unification occurs when all of our interests are aligned as one, and not when the entire group is being patronized by irrational threats and unrealistic worst case scenario timelines. The importance of making a well-informed, educated vote that is not based on rumor or conjecture has been conveyed from DALPA and many of the TA supporters time and time again, but then that sentiment is followed by what will happen to the group if the TA is voted down.

We shouldn't be asking what will happen if we vote "NO", we should be asking is this TA worthy of a "YES" vote?
The outcome will find it's way in history and those of us who are smart enough to not dwell on the past or throw the "I told you so's" back in other peoples' faces will be all the happier in the end.

You seem to think that group unification exists when the the "outliers" are silenced, I disagree, I think group unification occurs when each of us, outliers included, have a representational body that echoes the sentiment, cares, and concerns of the majority.