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Old 06-23-2012 | 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
Yep... and here we are paying for the 50 seater overbuying mistake with this TA...
Yes, Yes we are. We are also paying for Leo Mullin crew's horrendous decisions and managerial skills.

To placate the “Scope” no voters, I will concede that a line in the sand should be drawn at some point, and it is certainly a single issue to don the battle gear for. I would be with you on this, but I’m not convinced this is a bad scope TA. I have posted numbers several times, but no one has challenged me on this particular issue. RD version: DCI large net loss, mainline large net gain. I just don’t get the entire scope issue.

As a side note, I remember when management (all carriers) was so excited about replacing the slow, loud, and customer hated turbo props with RJ’s. Just think of it. All those short miserable connection flights would now be replaced by somewhat quiet state of the art corporate type jets. The passengers will go crazy over them, right? I think the pilot group was somewhat OK with it as well. I know I was. Get those pesky slow aircraft out of our way all the while making the connection passengers happy. This will be a win for everyone, right? Not so fast. In no way did we ever imagine they would completely saturate the skies, runways, taxiways, gates, and airways with these inefficient long range, job stealing aircraft. In no way did we predict that as a turbo prop replacement they would allow them to fly nearly a thousand miles and make the switch from connection aircraft feeding the mainline to stand alone point to point aircraft thereby effectively stealing much of our work, but that is exactly what happened. We have been regressing ever since. Unfortunately, it is what it is; and at this point we have little control over the issue. As a perpetual no voter I banged my head against the wall wondering why guys wouldn’t fight for what we deserve. They never did. Shamefully maybe I have lost some of the fight in me, but I truly believe with the current environment we are in, this TA is about as good as we can expect. I wish it weren’t so, but I think this is reality. Incidentally, as a future yes voter, it seems turning down the TA worsens our RJ position, not strengthens it. All for now.