Originally Posted by alfaromeo

Okay, so you admit that you don't really have any data. The honest answer is that we were consistently above 50% of the JV flying until Alitalia joined. At that point we were down to about 47.5%. We negotiated to slowly recover to 50+% of a larger pie. Somehow you paint this is a concession or a loss for Delta pilots. That is just outright deception. You play with these numbers and then pretend we are having an honest discussion.

Since we want to have an honest discussion, maybe you can answer the following questions:

1. When you made your staffing slide you assumed less than 3 crews per airplane for MD-90 and B-717. Where did you get those numbers? The company estimate is 5.5 and 7.
2. How do you get an 80% shift in reserve flying from winter to summer? The actual shift in total flying is 13% while the actual difference is less than 2%. Where did you derive 80%? What data did you use?

I could go on forever. You are not trying to have an honest discussion. You are trying to have this TA voted down. That in itself is your right and a perfectly acceptable goal. You have chosen to try to deceive people with faulty graphs and fancy pictures and that is what I have a problem with.



You have two stories from 2011, one from 2012 that does not mention AF/KLM/AZ and then another that announces only Delta's route cuts. Are those your only sources, if so, they are not very good sources. I have analyst reports for both sides of the JV, Delta's scope compliance numbers, and OAG pulls. I will let others decide whose data is better sourced.