Yeah the NO voters conveniently like to ignore this and lots of other facts. They remind me of Democrats. Why let facts get in the way. They want the 717, the WB 773 and 787 orders, but view the company's possible profits to fund such orders as blasphemy. And never mind what’s going on around them. Their thought is “We deserve more, no matter what.” BTW: Jack is now officially off my Xmas card list for that dimwit comment. No really.