Oh and in reply to the original question, Denny, if three years from now I'm sitting at Delta and they've been hiring like gangbusters ever since and the 717s truly turned out to be jumbo-RJ replacement aircraft and not merely DC9/MD88 replacement aircraft, the new jumbo-RJs are flying to a lot of former 50-seat markets, and the company has maintained full compliance with the ratios - I will gladly admit I was wrong and will give DALPA a lot more credit in the future.

I am very curious about the inverse of your question, though. What would it take for guys like tsquare, shiz, and lumburg to admit they were wrong?