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Old 07-09-2012 | 02:23 AM
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Originally Posted by SWAblue
With that being said, is there a section in your ops specs that a SIC is required for Part 135 cargo operations in your PA31 or BE99?

You can log anything you want. How it is viewed by future employers is another subject matter. Anything interpreted as dishonest will automatically disqualify one from further consideration. Unless I am missing something you have failed to explain in the past few posts, whether or not this has been argued before, you can not legally log second in command time in any operation that does not require the position. Only those who need the time I can imagine would debate this point of well known FAR common sense among professional pilots.
Originally Posted by freightdog
We have OpSpecs, as do almost everyone else, that allow for lower than standard departures if the have an SIC onboard. Since an SIC is required for lower than standard takeoffs then they can be required to be on onboard for other ops. This has been my best understanding of the regs to this point.
We do have an exemption to 61.51 that allows AMF to assign an SIC to a flight which would not otherwise require and SIC and allow them to log the flight time.

There is not stipulation in the exemption about it being for purposes of lower than standard takeoff minimums, though that is one advantage to us in some aircraft.

One thing I would definitely agree with you about, SWABlue, is that if they were to log it as PIC, it only counts as part 91 PIC, not part 61. And 61 is what employers are looking for. So it doesn't do any good for PIC time requirements and my recommendation to guys is that they log it AS SIC time so there is no confusion. But it should be valid as total time as much as if they were flying right seat in any other aircraft.
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