Common sense and logic? The guy takes everything management says as fact. Im not a big union guy, but rah mangement has been caught in more lies than i care to talk about. If you want to debate certain aspects of both sides, go for it. Coming on here acting like bedford only speaks the truth and ibt only lies is just pathetic. Saying that, 3662 is either a management mole or a pilot lacking intelligence. Which ever he is, debating with him is pointless and a waste of time. You cant teach stupid.