Originally Posted by
newarkblows
Really all you have to look at is the long list of grievances we currently have.
They have fought for our DHD on mainline flights to no longer be block or better because "continental" is no longer operating the flights... they have since come to their senses because they would have most likely lost the long drawn out arbitration.
They want us to check in 1 hr prior at an airport terminal despite the fact that we used negotiating capital to end that horrible idea 7 years ago. It didn't work last time, our operation is twice as spread out across more terminals, and if they want to try it again then they need to negotiate to get it back. They are adamant that they can enforce this upon us and that they are somehow being nice by giving us an "extension."
Pay: Pay claims are not being responded to within the contractual 14 day time frame, they no longer mail you a check for a gross underpayment unless you bring the contract to their attention, and they are actively changing flight times in rainmaker to their benefit weeks after you operated that flight.
We are now in SWAP for any little sneeze across the US which is fine but any trades outside of skedplus (even if it benefits the company) are about as rare as a water into wine miracle, the servers for skedplus are so slow that the ILIW and SLIW are now much less effective line adjustment tools, the wireless in the ewr crew room is now unusable and the powers that be don't want to ask United for a reasonable fix because we don't want to bite the hand that feeds us. Just like they didn't want to fight for our EARNED vacation passes, a pass priority above unaccompanied pass riders, or to stop mainline people from bumping us on our own flights by using vacation passes for an entire year.
The deadheading positive space thing is a blatant concession but now they are whittling away at our work rules and QOL little by little. It might only be a few small things but they are actively taking things away from us. A perfect example of this is how much we have to keep an eye on our pay now that Rainmaker (which wasn't ready to be rolled out) is supposedly a benefit to us. Their first software fix for rainmaker that took months to program wasn;t even to correct the problems we were having with it. It was to correctly pay us LESS! It was paying everyone 75 hrs even if they flew 60 hrs and that was what they wanted to correct first. Not the hundreds of hours of flight training pay, pairing overages, and vacation pay that they were stealing from us.
Nothing is getting better or easier for the employees. Everything benefits them or is somebody else's fault that they have no control to fix so we have to live with it.
Now that your a "sub contractor" welcome to the real airline industry. I thought your contract was soooo great? I guess your contract language wasn't as strong as you thought but your MEC found that out with JA.
That MEC rolled over. So far the union hasn't lost any group grievance, including the check in one.
Originally Posted by
Nevets
Like I said, I didn't mean to say that everything in their contract is inferior. There are a couple of things that aren't and the rest is inferior. You know that right?
The solution? Take the best of both contracts.
And how's that contract language doing for you guys? How many grievances do you have open? I hear you guys have some heartburn with the new crew planning manager, former ALPA XJT SCH Committee member.
See above. As for crew planning manager, don't know what you are talking about. I talked to him today and have no problems with him.
Originally Posted by
Ted Striker
That's great and all when your paid enough to actually live somewhat close to where you are based out of. Pay me more than the tsa dipshi*s and I'll check in twice if they want me to.
That is the lamest, sorriest, saddest line of total bull SH!t I've ever heard! What an entitled little brat! So, let me get this straight.....you'll do the simplest little thing your company requires if they pay you more? You did know the wages when you took the job, right? But yet you gladly applied and showed up for class. Now you want more or your not putting out what you agreed to! Sad.....
Pertaining to the ERJ side, yes. We used to have check in and it was negotiated away in an LOA using negotiating capital. So if they want it back, they will have to convince an arbitrator or use some of their negotiating capital.
Originally Posted by
afterburn81
I think what a lot of guys are saying is that they will be at work early plenty early. It's about making your way all the way out to operations to check in at some computer when you have to come all the way back to where you came from.
Further more, why do you have to check in at some computer when you start a trip but they allow you to just go to your gate while you are in the middle of the trip. They tell you to be there 45 minutes early and we are. Just makes no sense really. Just do away with the whole computer check in thing and treat people like grown ups. If you can't be trusted to be there an hour before your trip starts then why hire a person?
Because in the middle of the trip they know where you are, and know you are there. They however don't know if your commute flight is holding inbound or is sitting on the ramp waiting for a gate, or if you were in a horrible fiery car crash on the way to work and you are not going to make your flight assignment. That said, being able to check in at the gate would certainly help and be a great compromise.
But not just commuters are required to check in. What about overnights? You can have a fiery crash on the hotel van, can't you?
Face it, it's lame.