Originally Posted by
Nevets
Industry leading? If we truly get an industry leading contract, it will be nothing to brag about. I know that we get a contract we agree to but what is wrong with wanting an industry leading contract when even that would be less than what we deserve?
Economies of scale...
Nothing is wrong but you have to ask yourself what does it get you. You can brag on web board...we have an industry leading contract. So what. At the end of the day it's a marathon, not a race. Look at Air Wis. in the late 80s, early 90s. Industry leading and what do they look like today? Comair, leading in the 90s and what has happened to them. ACA, created by expanding Westair to the east coast in the 90s and where are they today.
You can brag all you want about having an industry leading contract and it will not get you much more than bragging rights. Your always going to be on the RAAs hit list.
Economies of scale...did you not see that in my post. Thats the difference between XJT now and all of them then.
Or do you expect any of us to take ANY concession in this new contract?
Here is a list of my own. Mesa, Colgan, TSA, and I could co go but how has being lean on pilot compensation helped them in this marathon?
Economies of scale...
Originally Posted by
Bozo
Nothing is wrong but you have to ask yourself what does it get you. You can brag on web board...we have an industry leading contract. So what. At the end of the day it's a marathon, not a race. Look at Air Wis. in the late 80s, early 90s. Industry leading and what do they look like today? Comair, leading in the 90s and what has happened to them. ACA, created by expanding Westair to the east coast in the 90s and where are they today.
You can brag all you want about having an industry leading contract and it will not get you much more than bragging rights. Your always going to be on the RAAs hit list.
exactly. this is one of the industries that punishes the highest paid. this industry was also created to be a "stepping stone" and thus high salaries were never part of the reason to be here. stagnation happened, and due to the business model anyone in the industry get screwed. have fun "fighting" and doing "battle" with management (as one L-XJT'er put it). Its a lost battle, you either realize it now or later, when your flying gets pulled.
Read my post again and the one above. This is not about bragging. I'll ask again, why not industry leading when that is NOTHING to brag about? You are right, we are not mainline, which is why we are not trying to get mainline industry leading contract. This is about trying to get compensated what we are worth. In the end we will get what we are willing to work for. But that is not to say that we shouldn't get industry leading.
Are YOU willing to take any concession on any part of your contract? Do you expect the LXJT pilots to take any concession on Amy part of their contract? If not, then what would be wrong with taking the best of both contracts, adjust pay rates upward, and call it a day? Because that would be a regional industry leading contract! Three questions there for you.