Originally Posted by
FlyingNasaForm
When you fail an engine block the opposite rudder.
For example, if you fail the left engine put a little pressure on the right pedal, not enough to move it, but enough to prevent it from moving after. So if your student pushes the wrong rudder your foot will be there to stop it.
I will always remember that!
Originally Posted by
Cubdriver
If you are worried about improper engine out response at low altitude, your apprehension is a sign you are not ready for the worst case of a new student pulling the wrong throttle, stomping the wrong rudder and rolling the plane. The latter can of course quickly devolve into an unrecoverable spin. Even docile trainer twins have been lost this way, I recall an AllATPs Seminole a few years ago rolling over to a loss. The thing to do is get a more advanced MEI to take a short ride with you, you on the right him on the left, and have him deliberately demonstrate improper student engine-out response recovery. If he knows the airplane well he should be able to let it go pretty far to let you see what can happen, how it happens, and what to do to prevent or stop it. When you have that experience, the rest is easy because nothing can be more dangerous.
When I go up with the chief for my checkout in the morning i'll have him show me these things...
Originally Posted by
rickair7777
You have exactly the right attitude for a MEI instructor, especially a new one: Scared.
Don't let it show but use that fear as a tool to keep you on your toes.
If you really start to lose it on a Vmc demo or engine cut and it's starting to rotate, pull BOTH engines to idle...now it's just like an ASEL and you already know how to handle that. The cut engine is not the one that's going to kill you, it's the one at full power...keep that in mind.
Hmm.. never thought of it like that. I will be sure to use this technique as well.
Originally Posted by
chrisreedrules
I know a couple guys that have been spun by students in a multi... it always happens when you least expect it and when you are least prepared for it. Beware a secondary spin! Once you stop rotation and return the nose to the horizon, remember to ease off the rudder. A buddy of mine spun a twin from 4500 and then got into a secondary spin and managed to recover at about 1,000 feet. Scary stuff. He had to pretty much push the nose over 90* to break the stall.
I almost spun the aircraft when I was working on my multi... it was my first Vmc demo and I let the aircraft roll over about 90* before realizing what was happening. It happened so fast (the Tecnam really liked to snap over with a quickness) that even my instructor wasn't prepared. He had over 500 multi hours at the time. BE VIGILANT!
This is what I fear.. The inevitable, spin or engine failure on takeoff, student feathering the op engine, stepping on the wrong rudder. I guess its just an odds and numbers game. Lets hope that I have rolled the dyce a couple of times and have been well comfortable in the right seat before my fate becomes inevitable.
I guess the moral of the story is to be VERY alert and vigilant while instructing, in an effort to PREVENT anything bad from happening. I just want to thank you all for taking the time to giving your two coins(which ever currency you use), as this has really given me a confidence boost!
Ill be sure to let you guys know what happened tomorrow after my flight!
- Joel