Originally Posted by
rickair7777
True that most have to farm out the checkrides to a DPE...however the checkride is STILL a 141 End-of-Course Stage Check, and as such cannot be "failed", only complete or incomplete. The DPE is SUPPOSED to complete 141 paperwork and do the 8710 differently than a 61 ride. Also no pink slip should be issued in the event of an incomplete.
All this info, and instructions on how to fill out the 8710, are in the examiner's handbook. Unfortunately many examiners don't know or bother with the proper procedures for a 141 "failure", and just process it like 61. This is not really fair to the student who jumped through the 141 hoops, and the school should not allow this to happen.
I think you are confusing some things. The school has to have examination authority from the FAA to do it with an approved instructor from the school. Most will have to do the EOC with the school and then have to go to a DPE for the actual checkride, which would be approved or disapproved. A failure is a failure. It does not matter if it is processed by the FAA or a flight school and then notifying the FAA when you pass. 141 records can be looked up. If you try to say on an interview "I technically did not have an FAA failure," you will just look very stupid.