Originally Posted by
sigep_nm
Seriously and not trying to be a prick, but anyone looking at mesaba that didnt want to be a mesaba a year ago should go to XJT or somewhere. Think of mesaba as a blue collar pilot job where pay is fair, not great. It is also a place where experience speaks more than "shiny jet syndrome". Mesaba is no XJT, Horizon, SKYW, and definetly not PNCL, it's Mesaba. Part of the Redtail empire, and dont come jumping at it now when you talking trash about it six months ago. Bankruptcy and no one wanted to be there, new shiny jets and "yeah it sounds like a great opportunity", no it is not a FLOW THROUGH to NWA and probably never will be. I personally hope they slap a training contract on new hires to keep them from time buliding like a bunch of old colgan guys did just to get somewhere else... that kills an airline alot more than you think.
i hate to burst you bubble there mate but you guys are the exact same as pinnacle. you obviously haven't been in the industry long enough to know, so i will fill you in. a few years ago nwa had 2 regionals. nwa and express 1(i will refer to them as pinnacle from here on out). these two carriers were the only regionals that flew for nwa. One day nwa wanted to add more saabs to the fleet, and as you know mesaba got the deal. Nwa kicked pncl out of msp, knocked all there flying down, and pncl thought they were going to have to furlough a lot of pilots because of the reduction of flying. then came the avros, and as we know mesaba got them, and pncl kept getting knocked down. we were knocked down so far that the company became dirt cheap. NWA gladly bought pncl since they only flew for them, and they had knocked them down to nothing. Once they bought pinnacle they started throwing all the NEW shiny crj's our way. before you knew it we were a 100 plus rj only operator, while mesaba was missing out on all the new action. then once pncl was looking great and doing very good nwa put out an ipo, sold it off and reaped the benifits. then a year or so later it was mesabas turn. mesaba took the beating this time, they got planes taken away, reduction in staff, furloughed pilots,,, and just when you thought that mesaba was going to be no more.. nwa buys them... sound familiar?? now that nwa owns mesaba they are going to build them up the same way they did pinnacle. Give them all the new jets, all the new flying. get busniness really good..and then guess what... sell them off, reap the benefits, and then do it all over again. so you see your company is the exact same as pncl. you are no different. I know you like to think you are the blue collar guys who git er done,, but its the same over here. except with us, we are not taking a concessionary contract. the company has tried on several attempts to trick us into taking cuts to get the nwa flying. we of course said hell no and that we dont give a crap about any new flying. we don't care about the flying in slc for delta that has been floating around. we wont give in. all we care about is our qol, which is going to change whether the company likes it or not. so saying that you guys are some superior red tail airline made me chuckle a little bit. you guys took the concessions they wanted, you guys got bought, you guys get the flying. its an old cycle that has happened obviously more than you are aware of. just a little research and you could educate yourself on the facts. so please remember. you guys will get built up, you guys will get the new flying, you guys will get sold, and then you will get beat down and the cycle will start again. so yeah, get off your soap box, you really don't have one to stand on.