you guys skyhigh is just ****ed because someone took him down a peg in another thread. he is an ex horizon guy that left before times got better. maybe he doesn't know what its like to fly anymore. i did roofing, framing and sales. i quit roofing and framing for the same reasons. i could see myself turning 30 and looking like 50.(i worked with several people that went down that path, not much older than me, but WORN out.) then i did sales. sure i did good but i got sick and tired of trying to pressure someone in to getting something that in reality they didn't really NEED. so good luck to you out there sky high. i will enjoy working 14 days this month, and having 16 days off. and you are incorrect about police, fire, and ups guys earning a captains wage after a couple years. first of all, very few police and firemen pull in 70 grand a year. second most ups drivers are part time so they aren't entitled to benifits such as health care, 401k, and all the other stuff that workers should be entitled to. so you see, your negative outlook on the airline industry is misplaced. i think where you need to be looking is why you can still get on these boards everyday and tell us why we should hate our jobs so much.. sounds like you really miss it here, and you know misery loves company.