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Old 08-09-2012 | 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
The ONLY solution to this is one national seniority list. Of course, the pilots we so highly speak of will never go for it. You want to end that cycle? Create one seniority list, where pilots take their experience with them to an airline. It'll be a tought pill to swallow for this generation of pilots, but believe me the next upcoming generation will have it far better if we were to do so. The same management you blame also realizes that pilots are inherently self-serving with too much tied to their seniority at an airline.
Never going to happen, nor should it. There are other ways to take the sting out of starting over and enable pilots to vote no even if it means shutting the doors. Ending the "first year pay" B scale (and in most cases first through at least second to as high as fifth year B scales).

But, no matter what, you will never, ever, see an industry where you can camp out in the right seat of an RJ for 20 years with one company then slide on over to the left seat of a 777 for another airline. It simply will never work like that, nor should it. National hiring list for new hires, maybe. NSL? No way. Look at USAir. They should have been allowed to liquidate, which would have made the rest of the industry much stronger and avoided most or all other furloughs. But to "protect labor" they were bailed out again and again and today have captains makins less than common industry FO rates and a baseline that is weaker for us all.

A NSL will never happen but there are other ways to mitigate the churn. Labor can only do so much. The rest has to come from the regulators and even the companies. We need healthy airlines to crush the never ending barrage of start ups and foreigh dual subsidized EGO airlines.
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