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Old 08-09-2012 | 06:41 PM
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nbecca
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Originally Posted by Bolo

The other hypocritical thing was the ability to have our own local or the ability to coexist. You allowed our FA's who are AFA and RAH FA's who are IBT coexist, why can't we do the same? Of course, I cannot wait to hear the answers why were not allowed any of these two options?
ATC and your answer is?
IBT has a number of Joint Councils and had two fine examples presented to them at the time. Atlas and Polar had two separate EBoards (endorsed by IBT) until their merger was complete and the IBT worked with Gate Gourmet to allow them to have an actual voice in their future.

We were close to an agreement on a Joint Council after one meeting with the Aviation Division, then out of the blue, the IBT cancelled the next meeting, giving no reason for doing so.

Imagine how things could have worked out if FAPA and 357 had come to an agreement, instead of forcing the Frontier pilots into 357. We very well may have achieved "one list, one voice" to the benefit of all parties involved.

Now we have nothing but animosity and endless bickering. Very few Frontier pilots have joined 357, we can't accomplish anything because of LOA 69 between FAPA (the legal representative at the time) and Frontier Airlines which limits participation in Scheduling and Hotel Committees and System Board of Adjustment for the Frontier pilots to being limited to Frontier pilots.

The IBT, for some reason, believes this is an illegal LOA even though it was legally negotiated between FAPA (the legal representative at the time) and Frontier.

The IBT has also taken FAPA's 1,200 hours of Flight Pay Loss annually hostage and would apparently rather spend 357 member's dues than release those hours to Frontier pilot preforming duties on behalf of Frontier pilots.

That's a serious waste of money, of which 90% (roughly) is paid by "native" RAH pilots. I'd be p***ed if 357 had and continues to waste my money unnecessarily while paying two assessments. 357, to add salt to the wound, even charges (or attempts to charge) Frontier pilots an assessment for Flight Pay Loss while our 1,200 hours just sits there being used for nothing.

That is somewhere between $135,000 and $200,000, or more, that is being wasted by 357 every year, just to prove a point, although I'm not sure what that point is. I'd guess you pay Wilder in the neighborhood of that amount, so if 357 used, instead of squandered, the FLP, there would be no need for the second assessment. It's only money though.....
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