Originally Posted by
hockeypilot44
This is not true. The judge has to approve the terms they desire. A judge looks at the rest of the industry. He is not going to impose an industry worst contract just because the company demands it. The company has to show what other companies pay and prove that the American pilots are getting too much. They aren't. I expect them to lose some work rules, scope, and have their retirement modified. They will come out much better than they would have if they passed that TA. Delta pilots live in fear of the unknown. Alfaromeo's post proves this.
Well it's great to make your decisions in ignorance. Section 1113c is about contract REJECTION. Not changing, not amending, rejecting. A rejected contract means you have no contract. Other judges have in the past restricted the company to either a TA position or the last table position. That is not written into the law it is just what the judges have done. This judge has stated openly that he does not think he has the right to impose conditions after a contract rejection, he may or may not live up to those words. If the contract is rejected, then the courts have ruled that the labor group is covered under Section 2 of the RLA. That deals with a labor group that has a union but doesn't have a contract yet. For example, if the Delta flight attendants voted in a union, they would fall under Section 2 until they negotiated their first contract. Under Section 2, there is no timeline nor any right to strike. That is what happened to the NWA flight attendants until they crawled back to management to try to scrape together some claim from bankruptcy.
So the most likely scenario in this case seems to be a contract rejection on Wednesday. AMR management would likely pick either the TA or the LBFO term sheet and set those as the current working conditions. The judge may or may not order them to stick to those conditions until a new agreement is reached. Those conditions prevail even after bankruptcy is over. The courts have also ruled that under a contract rejection, the labor group is not due an unsecured claim from the court. It is possible that he creditor's committee could move to eliminate the pilots from the committee which would reduce their leverage in the consolidation game. This is what really happens in the real world. In your little forum world you get to spout off nonsense and then never have to live with the consequences of your bloviation.
I don't live in fear of the unknown, but you seem to relish living in ignorance. You make up rules that don't exist and then claim some courage by sticking to those rules. You live in a world that has consequences whether you believe that or not. Sitting behind a keyboard is quite the courageous thing to do. You threaten to quit about every 2 days and go to another airline, but yet here you are, still with the same ignorance and the same self bravado. Profiles in courage.