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Old 08-11-2012, 07:27 AM
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eaglefly
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44 View Post
After talking to some American pilots, I am under the impression they are willing to put the whole company out of business if they are not paid in line with the Delta pilots. This group is really ****ed off. Even that's an understatement.
Most definately there are. But would be error to think everyone is that way. Like all pilot groups, this one is a bell curve on all issues. The level of militancy varies among individual pilots and even sub groups of status and domicile.

Actually, should the 1113 be imposed and elements of that begin to be implimented, I think it will only shift more of the currently meek and/or middle-of-the-road toward greater militancy as the this managements ruthlessness actually becomes reality for them. Then, depending on the timing and level of assault, that will actually make any future agreement increasing more difficult to ratify. At some point, many pushed to the brink will simply pull up stakes and leave. I think the worst scenario would be AMR leaving BK with no agreement as then there would be no judge to run to should attrition become excessive. That's a major loss of leverage and if AA unravels to the point of a fragmentation announcement, I think a mass exodus would occur as many pilots would then bail with what they got and move on. All you'd be fragmenting is a lot of airplanes and not as many pilots. Many of those routes couldn't be sustained during that fragmentation and thus that revenue would be lost forever to others. If a fragmentation of some or all of AA occured without pilots, that mass exodus would become a stampede that would way too early for either party of that specific fragmentation, because at that point, it's all over and for most nothing left to lose but assist AMR in the final slitting of their throats. Sure, you could train, but that takes months, which is too long to stop the transitional damage. That damage would weaken any such transactions value and would likely be a colossal goat****.

ouring over the last few days comments from many of the analysts, it seems now even many of them are suddenly scurrying out of their holes and claiming AMR will have serious difficulty presenting a winning POR with a wildcard for pilot labor costs which is an about face from their claims prior to the TA vote. Coincidentally (or not), the APA itself as part of their sales job to the pilots claimed a yes vote would weaken AMR and now many are saying what the pilots believed all along........that the fastest way to getting a new management that actually might consider the pilots to be human beings instead of "bricks" has now been made MORE likely then less, thus the APA leaders have lost the confidence of many of the pilots as they seem to completely out of touch with both them and the situation and quite frankly for many of them, their loyalties are being questioned. More then one domicile wants to clean house of their reps and one in particular is up for that possibility soon. If that domicile changes it representational base, it could swing the BOD in the opposite direction.

Personally, I think AMR once again embracing their hideously flawed philosophy of kickig the can down the road and limping along through the BK process will only prove to be as successful as the last 15 years of running this airline.

At least they'd be consistant.

Last edited by eaglefly; 08-11-2012 at 08:08 AM.
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