Originally Posted by
alfaromeo
This is from the judge's ruling (they are not contiguous paragraphs, just quotes):
The March 21 Proposal would allow American’s regional partners to fly aircraft with a maximum of 88 seats and a MTOW of 114,500 pounds. (AA Ex. 918). The maximum number of regional jets of 51 to 88 seats would be capped at the greater of 255 or 50% of the total number of mainline aircraft in use at the time. (AA Ex. 918; American’s APA Motion at 23 n.18). The maximum number of regional jets of 50 seats or less would remain at 110% of the narrow body aircraft flown at the mainline at the time. (AA Ex. 918). Additionally, the distinction between owned and non-owned commuter carriers would be eliminated—all would be operated as if owned. (AA Ex. 918). Based on current fleet size, the APA calculates that the March 21 Proposal would permit the Company to use 536 regional jets of up to 50 seats and 304 regional jets of 51 to 88 seats. (Eaton Decl. ¶ 25). The APA’s primary objection relates to the use of the larger regional jets.
The Court finds, therefore, that American has shown that the request in the March 21 Proposal is reasonable and necessary when compared to its network competitors.
This is a comparison between the TA the American pilots voted down and what there new working conditions will be if they let the judge rule:
So you can yell at me all you want. I am just the weatherman, you can scream at me for telling you that it is raining, or you can go find an umbrella. If this fight is about RJ's the choice is pretty stark. The TA had terms much more favorable to the American pilots than the judges ruling will be. Read his decision, let me know how you think this will go.
Little children can hurl insults on this forum all day. Let me know how that works for you in the real world.
To be honest, it is you that sounds like the defensive little child. If you want to put out your OPINION on this issue, fine, but expect it to questioned by those directly involved in the situation. Now as far as your assertions above, YOU MISS THE REAL POINT ENTIRELY (but that's understandable considering you're in the stadium parking lot peeking through the fence instead of not only not in the stands, but not on the playing field)
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In regards to the TA scope provisions, THAT agreement allows presently approximately 375 RJ's and could include the E-190 as the term "comparable aircraft" is a contractually meaningless definition. In fact, a large percentage of the TA DID NOT EVEN HAVE FINAL CONTRACT LANGUAGE AT THE TIME OF VOTE DEADLINE, so in effect, much of the TA MEANT NOTHING (at least nothing defendable). Additionally, the codesharing provisions allow for other carriers to fly another 300 or so aircraft of ANY SIZE that would replace AA domestic flying. At that point the game is over anyway for most of the AA pilot group and it matters little whether its 79 or 88 seats as WITH the TA, AMR can place perhaps 700 aircraft into future service ranging from small RJ/turboprops, up to ANY size aircraft flying domestically. The TA was giving up virtually everything anyway and destroying any possible leverage for a decade (or more), so that coupled with the other provisions that put AA pilots SQUARELY at the bottom of the coming playing field in compensation and in fact, by a significant margin, made the decesion clear for most pilots. There was simply nothing to work with in the TA.
Your argument, while it MAY appear to have merit as TECHNICALLY the TA was better then the 1113, in reality it does NOT have merit as REALISTICALLY, the TA ensures it's all over for most AA pilots. BTW, considering the age of this pilot group, this TA would have been the LAST contract for the majority of pilots here and basically they'd be finishing their careers in the worst situation possible. As it stands now, there still is a potential future to be negotiated at some point that will likely provide much better then this garbage, sandbag TA. I must say I find it odd you're so emotionally aggressive regarding another pilot group that didn't see things the way you do and you seem to be taking it personally. I'm sorry most aren't buying your erronous advice. This leads me to suspicions you either have another motive (self-interest) or perhaps you are another poser pretending to be a pilot.
Just why ARE you so emotional about the AA pilots situation ?
