Originally Posted by
Airhoss
Desperately being dead headed around the system as they tried to use me to plug holes.
And we are talking about bumping pilots over here!
And we have such a surplus they are giving out voluntary leaves on this side.
Until we have a contract the answer is to PARK the whole airline.
REALLY?? I haven't noticed that.
If there is an integration REALLY, I thought it was when? Cry me a river over those potential "lost" captain positions. There are only a small percentage of F/O's over here that haven't had fourth stripe ripped from them.
Oh boy and the net "gain" is smaller than the net loss of airframes. IE We are being shrunk. Not to mention we are trading in real airplanes for kiddie car POS AKA 737's.
Don't tell me not to get emotional. I am righteously ****ed OFF. And every pilot on the LUAL should be equally ****ed off. We are being disregarded, passed over and generally screwed blued and tattooed by your management. This is absolute proof that Jeffy is trying to pull a CAL EAL 2012 here. It's time to fight.
Originally Posted by
Lerxst
You conveniently left out the two failed merger attempts with USair, the second of which died on May 30, 2008 - a mere 5 days before Tilton announced parking the 6 747's and 94 737's.
And we forget that CAL operates 737's, even classics. If UAL had announced that they were parking the airbus fleet then that might make sense but USair has a nice new fleet of airbuses thus UAL, in their proposed merger with USair would not want to park the compatible fleet.
BTW, I pulled that out of my rear just like someone who claims the UAL 737's were parked to facilitate a CAL merger did years ago. The difference is this, many UAL furloughed pilots and pilots forced to downgrade as a result of that fleet being parked have hung on to those words and dearly want to believe that to be the truth. CAL has had new airplanes on order for years. Most of the 2005 hires held captain in late 2007-2008 and 2006 and on hires were moving up quickly with upgrades expected in 5 years or less. The retirement age change added five years to that and "voila", here we are. The movement due to aircraft deliveries and age related retirements are starting to finally drive system bids with numbers like we saw yesterday. A vast anti-UAL pilot conspiracy this is not. Sorry.
If UAL had had 787's on firm order and new A320's in the delivery pipeline and those aircraft were arriving now and the growth was on your side, we wouldn't be having this discussion. It is what it is. Let's get a contract and the SLI completed so we can all enjoy the growth!!!