Originally Posted by
Scoop
Clamp,
No. But Sailing does have a very valid point here. If 300 Pilots age 63 and 64 years were to have taken the early out then all Pilots junior to them would see a temporary advance in Seniority. Temporary in the sense that the seniority bump would evaporate over the two years when anyone over age 63 would have hit the mandatory retirement age regardless.
This would yield a temporary bump of 300 for lets say an average of 1.5 years yielding a gross total 450 pilot years of advantage. ** If however 191, but lets just use 200 for even numbers, dudes retire early at an average age of 60 that would yield an average of 200 times 5 years for a gross total of 1000 pilot years.
In the above example 1000 is greater than 450 and I believe that is what Sailing was referring to.
To summarize 300 very old (average 63.5 years old) gives a larger temporary seniority bump but for a much shorter time. 191 old (average 60 years old) gives less of a bump but provides the benefit for a much longer time.
I would like to point out that both of these advantages are just temporary and yield down to a zero benefit in about 5 or so years. The work rules that we gave up are forever, or until "We get em next time!" So while better than nothing, early retirements are like getting that third shot of espresso in your Starbucks - it feels good but does not last!
** These numbers all assume that you are junior to the early outs. Obviously if you yourself are a geezer

and are senior to half of them you would only receive half the benefit.
Scoop

It still doesn't make his statement not downright stupid. All the early outs have gone to the same age range, so 300 would be better than 191. As per your example, this "bump" will evaporate over 3-5 years... and to top it off, they didn't backfill beyond one layer either.
My seniority number has gone up, but I'm more junior than I was in 2008.