Originally Posted by
acl65pilot
Ok, lets change the direction of the discussion.
Here is the question proposed; What Items do you want improved or changed in our current PWA?
We may have more than just the FT/DT LOA to improve our PWA across multiple sections, and now is the time to start forward looking on what items we want to pinpoint and then discuss.
Well pay, scope, work rules, retirement, yadda yadda and all that. But I don't see the FT/DT as an opportunity to mine very much of anything. Clearly the company will want relief the current contractual 3/4 man crew parameters so they can trash the operation by pushing the limits for the extra hour. Legal to start, legal to fin...wait, we're not legal to finish? Oh crap, now what do we do!
But I really don't think we should give that up, and I double secret really don't think we'll get much if anything in return for it. Especially when a single issue mid contract item like that would only deliver partial gains compared to the losses, otherwise they wouldn't bother worrying with it in the first place. The company will only want that for one reason: to reduce pilot headcount. Anything we get for that one reason will be limited by the value of that, and odds are quite a bit less, otherwise the company wouldn't bother to begin with.
But if we're playing this game anyway, I want language forbidding the renewal of half of the upcoming large jet DCI contracts, the 5 99.9K lbs DPJ flown by current DL seniority list pilots (the contractors who were illegally flying them before we won the grieveance can be stapled behind the next 500 new hires and they can fly them when they can hold them) and a 5 hour vacation day.
Oh, and for every flight that times out because they chose to run it with a zero cushion "looks good on paper" block hour increase when there is the slightest delay anywhere, DALPA gets a one million dollar "see I told you so" penalty to offset member dues and eventually to distribute evenly among the pilot group when it fully funds the budget.