Originally Posted by
sailingfun
So you thought those jobs were going to show up in 76 days? You do know the contract was signed on 1 July 2012. I also hope your really don't believe that Delta airlines operates in a vacuum. Have you picked up a newspaper since 1 July?
Your stating two thousand jobs will be required by the contract or implied by ALPA is also BS. The document you reference put out by ALPA is still available on the website. You should have read it before voting on the contract but take the time to read it now. Read all if it including the assumptions. The actual number assuming a bunch of things which they carefully spell out was 1107 additional jobs. Thats almost half your quoted number. That number was at the end of 2016 or over 4 years from now. The number quoted for 2012 as far as extra jobs was 1 total job. They quoted 180 additional jobs by the end of 2013 or over 15 months from now. If the economy causes marketing to make a 2 percent downward adjustment in their block hour plan we lose over 200 jobs.
The 1107 additional jobs is almost exactly what you would expect with the addition of the 717's to the fleet and the resultant shift in block hours from DCI to the mainline. The first 717 however is still about a year away from a in service date. Again the contract was signed 76 days ago. Talk to me in 3 years!
Originally Posted by
Jesse
Sailing, you are so right. I remember when SD's memo came out about the likelihood of hiring in the 4th qtr this year if we passed the TA and how you proclaimed just as loudly back then THAT THE TA PASSING AND SD'S SUGGESTING SO WOULD NOT BE A CAUSE FOR HIRING THIS YEAR?
Originally Posted by
sailingfun
I don't recall ever stating we would hire this year. It is however still being considered. I read SD's memo. I guess you are not aware he is the VP of flight ops. He has his agenda. The memo said we might hire depending on about five varibles. I am really shocked so many on here have not read so much of what they post about.
I went back and filled the thought out. I assumed you'd be able to figure out what I was implying, but that's what I get for assuming.
No, you didn't state we would hire this year, but you along with the others were fine with SD pushing the idea; a voice of authority and knowledge who puts out an official communication from the company. No one I recall who was in support of the TA said anything like that at the time, "I guess you are not aware he is the VP of flight ops. He has his agenda." Should we not trust SD when he suggest positive results for supporting DALPA's recommended course of action? You're right, maybe all communications from company representatives should come with a disclaimer about how their ideas and suggestions should be considered favoring the company and should not be construed in a manner which you might think beneficial to the employee. As much as anyone who tried to point out how none of the dangled sweets were actually in writing, it was constantly dismissed as the musings of ill-informed pilots.
I read the SD memo about hiring. I am well aware of the caveats he attached. But the fact is he was part of a coordinated effort that benefited from the cozy relationship between management and union. You can be shocked all you want; its your drama.