To further that thought, it really doesn't matter what the L-CAL pilots think, or think they want. It is my belief that National ALPA will has a serious hand in looking over any proposal created by this painfully anti-labor, RLA governed process. Not that their (national ALPA's) ability to crystal ball the future is any better than the rest of us, but they need to insure that the majority (read L-UAL) of the pilot group is appeased, or risk certain death. They still have holes in the budget from the loss of the USairways Pilot's dues and are maneuvering like the Medici family to insure no larger group perceives injustice.

Where there's smoke there's fire. I think there may be some validity to the $400 million and 70% to L-UAL. Then throw in the persistent 50% in stock, a hold back until SLI rumor, make it the MEC's responsibility and you're Jeffed.