Originally Posted by
slowplay
Do you have any facts or recent history to support your position, or are you playing to your co-workers that are bigger suckers than those dumb rj pilots?
Here's some recent examples:
AFA at USAirways turned down their deal...it got worse. USAPA's governing body turned down their deal, and it got worse. While the final story hasn't been written, APA turned down their deal, and it got worse.
So in your world the "right" answer was to turn down the June 29 deal. You'd now be negotiating in an environment where AMR has 88 seat RJ scope (only using 79 seats at this time) imposed by the court. Nice.
You assert that the B717 were coming anyway, even though Delta management and ALPA told you there was a plan B. Isn't it strange that a Delta competitor "found" about half the number of used amall narrowbodies on the open market just a few short weeks after the TA was ratified. Or how about the capacity math that doesn't work for delivery of all 88 B717s without the deal? You trying to "sucker" somebody?
Slow,
The real talking point here is the TA shouldn't have been TA'd in the first place since it didn't meet the MEC's direction. And once it was TA'd, the MEC should have sent it back. However, I do know that the very real problem for the MEC was if they didn't give it to the pilots, there would have been he!! to pay, since we all know the type of control freaks most of us are.
The junior guys who voted against the TA are upset because we were right, while I do get paid more now, we gave up jobs! We were sold a bill of goods by a feckless MEC that cannot or will not stand up for the jobs it is supposed to protect.