Originally Posted by Jack Bauer

Not necessarily in this order but see any patterns emerging. Some will say whatever is necessary to get what they want. Some will believe what is said every time no matter how many times they get duped.

Delta tells Cinci we are here to stay and not shrinking if merger approved.

Merger is approved and we have only a few flights left now.



Delta tells Delta pilots we will get a bunch of increased flying if we lobby with them to get the slot swap for LGA.

We lobby/win and find out Delta forgot to tell us most of the new flying is DCI RJ’s


Delta tells MSP we are there to stay and will keep jobs in the area with training and some headquarters if merger approved (remember the questioning by then Transportation Committee Chairman James Oberstar).

Less than three years after the merger was approved most of the training and NWA headquarters moved to ATL (Delta did pay a monetary penalty for this as MSP dignitaries didn't trust the double talk and in the end they we smart to be skeptical and require penalties if Delta didn’t follow through on promises).


Delta/ALPA imply, hint, suggest hiring to begin by the end of 2012 if we pass TA2012. The ALPA marketing machine puts out bogus numbers for hiring if we vote in TA2012 that evaporate within a couple short months because of …..wait for it…..the economy that’s exactly the same as it was when such statements were made.


ALPA says we will not hurry the negotiations for TA2012 if it causes us to marginalize the goals of our pilot group as reflected in the TA2012 survey.

ALPA does a 180, abrogates its promises, keeps its membership in the dark and hard sells an inferior agreement that is sold as hiring positive (see above).


ALPA promises to release Flight Pay Loss data when put under pressure by its constituents.

ALPA fails to produce such numbers and by now have swept all this under the carpet.


And so on and so on and so on…….