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Old 09-26-2012 | 02:39 PM
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xjtguy
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Some good points, but........

Originally Posted by Leroy Smith
Common sense and logic dictate that there can only be 2 ways for you to be cheaper (with one caveat). Either you fly more block for less credit, or your base rate (contractual or seniority based) is less.
As far as credit goes, everybody gets hung up on the CA rates. However, FO rates on 50 seat equipment are almost identical. The CA rates are similar till year 16, then the CRJ rates go ahead. Are there enough -200 CRJ CA's at that longevity rate that would ACTUALLY skew the numbers? Doubt it.

The amount of soft time in the ERJ CBA is much more than the CRJ's. Especially as it results to transition and training conflicts. Vacation touch and vacation low are similar. However, an ERJ pilot can get the big trip drop/conflict yet credit more than the 75 hr min in a vacation month, even if he doesn't pick up. So the ERJ CBA is less efficient/more costly than the CRJ's in those areas, yet the ERJ side is still cheaper.

Originally Posted by Leroy Smith
The caveat is if your ancillary benefits (healthcare, etc.) are somehow vastly less costly.
So- either you are much less senior a group on average, or you are compensated less per hour of work performed. Dont see how you can be cheaper/ more efficient and make more for less work........ Or is that where the "new math" kicks in, or maybe alchemy??
Have you read through the ERJ CBA? The 401K match is higher, sick time accrual rate is higher. If you were to compare ERJ W2's to CRJ W's, I SERIOUSLY doubt your argument of lower compensation would be valid.

Last edited by xjtguy; 09-26-2012 at 02:50 PM.
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