LowSlow, I forgot to address, I'm not moving the goal posts. It's all related; detached, self-serving, or under-prepared leadership leads us to where we are. It's somewhat simple to complain about queep, but that's just a symptom. Fixing the disease, the root cause, takes knowledge of how the system works now, how it should work, how to change it, and the spine to do it. Unless the leadership has the qualities I described, how can we have faith they'll be our solution? Personally, I don't expect ineffective O-4s/O-5s to become highly effective O-6s and above.