Clearly there is evidence to support both sides of this argument. How about we agree to disagree. Focus all this negative energy against the forces who wish all 12000 of us to fly at UAL pay and under CAL work rules. They're the ones that want a to flood the place with large RJs.
As mentioned earlier, demand professional support from UCAL. Don't allow them to Micky Mouse this place up any more than they already have. Don't enable their goal of supplicating us by accepting sub standard support and you'll do your part to retain UAL "culture".
It's the worlds largest airline. It's supposed to be safe. The planes are supposed to be fixed. We're supposed to be rested. You're supposed to be legal and fit for duty. You're NOT supposed to be pushed or coerced into anything. (Gate agents....really???) In fact, last time James read the FARS, all of the above are mandated in 121. Yet, guys willingly allow themselves to be intimidated and accept junk, they carry trash. THIS is the culture that they want, and this is the reason LeeMat started the thread.
We've got ATPs. We're professionals and we should be compensated and treated as such. Keep the evil UAL culture.
According to FORBES, in 2010 alone Glenn Tilton made $17.8M here and holds $21.3 M in UAL stock. That culture was good enough for him.
Glenn F Tilton, CEO Compensation - Forbes.com
http://www.forbes.com/profile/glenn-tilton/
Jeff has already made at least $19.1M
http://www.chicagobusiness.com/artic...eo-smiseks-pay
Take a look at what UAL paid 9 execs in 2010....
<<Total salary packages for top United executives in 2010 were:
Jeffrey Smisek, CEO: $4,359,766
Zane Rowe, CFO: $1,661,499
Peter McDonald, COO $3,901,478
James Compton, CRO: $2,540,725
Irene Foxhall, EVP $1,938,362
Glenn Tilton, Chairman $16,844,026
Kathryn Mikells, Former CFO $9,400,143
John Tague, Former VP $11,728,990
Graham Atkinson, Former EVP $6,922,079
Total: $59,297,068 >>
United Executive Compensation - The Unfriendly Skies - The Facts About United Airlines' Strategy to Offshore and Outsource U.S. Jobs to the Detriment of Pilots and Passengers
They have 9B in unrestricted cash and they want you to fly for less than DAL and to accept less than full retro. They want to sit in coach as IRO. They want you to train yourself for free. They found $59M to pay NINE execs in ONE YEAR, yet refuse to find the money they owe the 12,000 of us for the last 2-3!!
Let's face it, UAL "culture" costs them money. No wonder they want to flush it.
You suck, we suck. Forget it. Fight to fix it.