Originally Posted by
datake
what's it matter! It's one single certificate. Are you a new hire off the street? No! So give me a break. My point is that it is wrong for either side to hire off the street with over 1400 ALPA pilots that will be flying under that certificate on furlough. Management shifted the flying around that caused the need on the CAL side and it's only one management, isn't it?
datake,
I understand the frustration over the issue. However, don't confuse the SOC with the fact that there are still two separate groups under their own CBA's. That's the real discriminator here regarding the ability for CAL to hire off the street. Right or wrong, the preferential hiring offer has been made to all furloughs and those that bypassed can reenter the fight as I decided to do recently.
Now, unlike what someone said regarding BOTH JCBA and SLI having to be done, the provisions of the TPA expire and the two groups become one on the effective date of the JCBA. TPA even says basically that. At that time, rights to openings for the "whole" UAL then become the right of the furloughees. Not before.
The SLI is not a player in that process regarding recall. The SLI, for all purposes, is really an ALPA internal thing. The parties have agreed to a no "bump/flush" agreement regarding SLI implementation when it is agreed to. Any affect will be forward looking from that point.
Man, none of it is necessarily right, it just is. I wish the TPA prevented what is going on, but sadly, it was written by some folks that were short sighted given the fact a JCBA was to be in place Oct of 2010.....
Frats,
Lee