Originally Posted by datake

For a United pilot who was hired in 99,2000,2001 etc that is at CAL on their old United pay, there is no raise with a new CBA. You're still a new hire and won't see any benefit pay wise from a new contract until you're technically recalled by United or the seniority list is integrated. Until then you're just a new hire. So lets say a United furloughee is at CAL making $82/hr, they won't see a raise until their second year at 2nd yr FO pay on the new CBA. That is messed up! They are at the new United and getting no longevity credit for the 4, 5, or 6 years they've already worked for Legacy United. This should be addressed and amended by the MEC's. Otherwise, any furloughed United pilot at CAL other than those that were still on first year pay should definitely vote NO on a new CBA no matter what the pay rates. Those furloughed United Pilots on 1st year pay will definitely benefit from the new CBA but that's it. Once again, new hire's at CAL directly affect the recall of United Pilots!!! If I'm wrong correct me...I'd love to be wrong but I don't think I am! Under the current situation, a junior United pilot who hits his 2nd year at CAL with a new CBA let's say making $100/hr will be making more than a United pilot who is senior to him that bypassed and is at their old 6yr A320 pay until year 2 at CAL. Again, completely messed up!!!