Originally Posted by
LeeFXDWG
datake,
Interesting points for certain. I wish there was a confirmed solid answer to the situation you describe. A couple of points to consider are the provisions of the TPA expire (such as pay provisions) on the effective date of a JCBA whenever that will be. On that date, true it isn't a recall for everyone, however any vacancy filling from that point forward will be from the furlough list rather than off the street. So say a furlough pilot comes back with X years of pay longevity (won't get into the furlough credit for pay discussion). That pilot will be paid based on whatever new payscale exists and their years of service, correct? But, somehow, a pilot that took the CAL position after a new JCBA is signed will somehow not have their total years of service at old UAL recognized until a recall? Anything is possible but I find that to be a stretch. I, however, haven't talked to any ALPA folks on the subject. Did you pose the question to your old UAL LEC to get their take?
Frats,
Lee
Yes, I have and I'm still working on it. There is a whole group of very senior voluntary furlougee's agressively working on this matter too. They are junior new hires at CAL who realize that their pay will not be affected by a new CBA unless they are recalled to their rightful spot. Even though they have over 20 years seniority as United Pilots, they are only seen as a junior new hire until recall. There are a lot of United guys at CAL who are making an assumption that their pay will be adjusted to the new pay scale. Their current pay hasn't even been adjusted to the 2012 rates of the current L-UAL pay scale. Their pay is simply exactly what it was with no adjustments at the day of furlough or voluntary furlough until their CAL hire date dictates more.