Originally Posted by
LeeMat
It should be called RETRO and distribute as RETRO period.
I hear that one side now wants it to be a signing bonus distributed as equal payment for everyone. I also hear that one side asked for W2 statements to use for SLI arguments against the other. Changing the rules of the game as the game progresses simply for SLI arguments, is obviously causing some of the delay.
The United pilot group bring roughly 2000 more pilot than the CAL pilot group...The united pilots will be receiving a higher percentage of pay increases due to the fact of having lower pay scales. Although the United pilots have monthly caps, I don't think that there were enough CAL pilots flying over 100 hours per month to offset the above mentioned facts. The W2 SLI argument is not going to hold any advantage after the RETRO is applied correctly. Again more pilots with higher % of pay increases applied RETROACTIVELY back three years. I know that the lawyers are going to argue against using revised W2 corrected to reflect retro, but after all Retro is retro and it bocomes part of our over all compensation.
I, like many on here never believed the Gag order excuse....I think that it is a convenient cover to hide all the disagreements.
I have to give it to UCH for knowing in advance that letting the pilots fight over a lump sum was going to delay this JCBA more than they could.
Lee,
You are posting a lot of hearsay in an attempt to split the groups against one another. You are also combining disparate issues wrongly wrt the Wage Data request and Retro.
W-2 Wage Data for BOTH groups was a separate CBA issue that was arbitrated months ago and ruled that it is allowable (and has been used in previous mergers) as a component in the merger integration process. National is now deciding what the singular ALPA position on the matter will be. Has no bearing on Retro or is affecting the timeline at all.
The Retro arbitration is just that, both parties have floated several different proposals and it is up to the arbitrator to decide on a ratio split by either accepting one of the proposals or creating his own. This process has been separate and parallel to the final JCBA language and had had no bearing on the timeline. The JNC will be in Chicago next week to continue to work on language.
The only side guilty of holding up this process is UCH. And Jeffy is laughing his ass off every time he gets a pilot group to start pointing fingers at the other.