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Old 10-28-2012 | 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by horrido27
Shrek..
We'll know how we all voted sometime next year (!). But one thing that does worry me is that if it's a ****ty deal for the CAL Side but still goes out to the membership for a Vote- I expect the CAL Scabs and a good percentage of my Senior (55yr+) guys to vote yes. Also worried that some of the middle guys will vote yes due to hopes of upgrades.
I expect almost all of the bottom 3rd at CAL to Vote NO.

The question then becomes- what is the feeling of the UAL Pilots?
That is still to be seen.
From what I've heard, your guys are pretty much leaning NO based on the leaked PayRates and the $400 mil Retro/Signing Bonus. Hope that is true.

The wild card will be the Election and what happens with the Distribution Arbitration.

Motch

PS> One of the scariest thing is this- all the Active UAL Pilots are on 12th yr pay. Looking at the "leaked" payrates, you see a higher % of increase for UAL 12th yr pay vs. any/most CAL % of increase.
While I understand that the UAL group has worked under worse pay than the CAL Pilots, the CAL Pilots have worked under worse conditions that the UAL Pilots. So, basically we've both been screwed.. just in different positions!

Motch, u know the bottom third here will vote no too

So, were up to 1/3 total no, we just need another 16.8% and voila ...nope!
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