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Old 10-30-2012 | 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Timbo
The fact is that you get a line awarded with the vacation added in, ie. a say, a 81hr. line at the initial bid run, then take away the 21 hr. vacation, and now you can pick up 21 more hours.

If that is not selling back 100% of your vacation, I don't know what is.

No, you cannot pick up time on your vacation days, but the rest of the month you can pick up to ALV+15+ the 21 hours of vacation. ie. you just sold it all back. This, along with no limit on the amount of time you can pick up by swapping with the pot, and trip parking, is what is killing your upward movement.
Nobody seems to care anymore Tim. It just doesn't register in people's brains that flying all these extra hours is costing us captain slots and new hire jobs. We view it as a win if vacation is pay/no credit. Everybody justs looks at that extra pay and doesn't think about the consequences.

And we're double screwed because ever since constructive engagement the union is all about "productivity" every bit as much as management. They would have happily allowed trip parking to continue if the line pilots didn't finally revolt.

I preach about this every chance I get but the philosophy nowadays is that its OK to remain a first officer for a few extra years instead of upgrading because we can make up the pay difference by flying to the ALV+15 even during vacation months.

Even wh0res have a better system than us.