just outta curiosity, what makes a pilot group "good". Everybody that I fly with is basically the same. From a capt's standpoint: yes, some FO's are not as much the company hired hit men trying to kill you as others, but from a first officer's standpoint I consider all capt's basically the same. Neither impressed or disappointed with them. They're just regular peops. With that being said, I wouldn't put any more trust or confidence in them, than I would the guy down the street. Always wondered why some "pilot groups" are praised. I say(with the exception of some REAL *********s), we're all pretty much the same.