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Old 11-11-2012 | 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by LCAL dude:1290859
Originally Posted by Trip7
Holding your scope at 50 seats is unrealistic and unreasonable. Only way you will keep 50 seat scope is if you continue to keep your current CAL contract and remain separate from UAL pilots.

I believe most mainline pilots rightfully see anything 76 seats or less and below 86,000 lbs a lost cause at mainline, so your viewpoint is in the minority

This is the same mentality that allowed RJs to be flown by regional carriers in the first place.

Instead of flying a 70 seat CRJ at regional airline wages, you should be flying it at mainline wages, on a mainline seniority list, with a mainline pilot career ahead of you looking forward to progressing to 787 FO and retiring as a 777 Captain. Instead you're stuck at a regional airline, at regional airline wages, praying your company is not whipsawed against another regional for lower wages and eventually eliminated. Once you upgrade to the left seat your career progression is over, unless you get hired by one of the mainline carriers, which are shrinking because of the outsourcing you advocate.


You shouldn't be telling us to give up the fight, Noob/lurking management poster, you should be screaming at mainline pilots NOT to give up the fight against outsourcing.

I don't know any right seaters at Cal who are willing to give up 50 seat Scope.
I give UNICAL zero chance of holding 50 seat scope in a new contract. It's a completely unreasonable and unattainable goal in today's airline environment. You'll say it's management koolaide, but I'm just being realistic. There is no legacy airline in the world that flies 70-76 seat jets at mainline. Heck, Iberia has Air Nodstrum flying the CRJ 1000 as Iberia express. Air Canada had E175s at mainline and now they are getting sent to a regional due to cost pressures.

I'll make the same wager with you, $100 Amazon gift card if UNICAL can hold 50 seat scope in their new contract. All I see is you guys pounding your fists on table, management pointing and laughing, and Delta pilots making tens of thousands of dollars more than your pilot group. Good luck!
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