Air Support, thank you for your reply also. I live 10 minutes from DTW and both mine and my wifes families live within MI. That makes Pinnacle very attractive to me. Does it look like everyone is upgrading right at 3000 hours at Pinnacle? Also, I have 1500 tt and 600 turbine time. Will all the 250 hr Gulfsteam hires have to wait to upgrade and hold me in reserve for eternally?