That is interesting that there will be no direct comparison to DAL. Part of our issue was that SWA and UPS/FDX were not really our peer group, but you guys are, and vice versa. There is alot buried in the TA besides payrates that don't cut it. Is ALPA just tired of negotiating?

Jamie Baker from JP Morgan...."Baker said the United wages appeared similar but one year behind those recently negotiated by Delta Air Lines Inc.