Many of those Airtran pilots suffering the consequences of not taking the first offer were also perviously part of the Midwest pilot group that rejected a "first offer" also. They were furloughed into liquidation just in case you've forgotten or never knew. Most stayed unemployed for a few years before being picked up at Airtran. They hadn't accrued a year on the property when WN bought them, so they couldn't even vote on the WN deal and had to trust their MEC, who told Gary Kelly to pound sand on the best thing most of them would ever see in their careers. Kelly and the WN BOD were ****ed. It cost them a ton of money to delay the business plan. Consequently they reconsidered but only if the Airtran pilots paid much of the costs of the second attempt. Deal two sucks in comparison. Ask the Airtran captains who will have to sit in the right seat for a year under the new deal how they like being "re-socialized" and taught the WN way of doing things... STAND FIRM! ...Idiots...

A 3 party negotiation overseen by the NMB? It's amazing this thing got done when it did.

This TA is not like buying/selling an existing house where we can tell our agent to make or reject offers. It's much more like building a house and each time you go to the lumber yard you need something different to get the place finished. We can stand there and re-negotiate every 2 X 4, but until we at least get the shingles on, the place is open to the elements and getting rained on every day that goes by.

I say we either send it back with a 100% NO vote or accept it. Don't expect each little piece of language to be revisited. Concentrate on DELTA pay + and FULL RETRO.