Originally Posted by
horrido27
Can a few of you guys come over the CAL/UAL Merger Section and comment on some of the "crap" in out TA.
One of the things in the TA is this=
20-K-6-f A Short Call Reserve who is given an assignment that requires an intervening FAR rest period does not require the minimum notification requirements of a Long Call Reserve or a contractual Off-Duty Period.
20-K-6-f-(1) Example: A Short Call Reserve whose assignment begins at 0700 and ends at 2100 may be released from the assignment at 2000 and given an assignment that begins at 0600 the next day.
20-K-6-f-(2) Example: A Short Call Reserve whose assignment begins at 0300 and ends at 1700 may be released from the assignment at 1300 and given a flying assignment that reports at 2300.
20-K-6-f-(3) Example: A Short Call Reserve whose assignment begins at 0600 and ends at 2000 may be released from the assignment at 0700 and given a flying assignment that reports at 1700.
I'm wonder if you allow any of this in you PWA.. especially example (3). At CAL, it's called 'Double Pumping' and alot of us have been trying to fight it for a long time~
Yet, there it is.. in Black & White. In our TA.
Thank You ALPA (not)
Thank You Delta Guys...
Motch
At Delta, a Short Call assignment is twelve hours long (say 0600-1800), and the pilot must be in the vicinity of the airport (unofficially defined as two hours, but they are reasonable about traffic on the 405 in LA, or blizzards in MSP, etc).
At any time during your short call period, you may be released to Long Call (12 hour call out), and given a trip assignment.
I was sitting a short call from 0600-1800 (if memory serves), and was contacted by crew skeds at 0800 and assigned a trip that reported at 2000 (or so, I'm going from memory). It was legal, because technically they were releasing me from Short Call, and assigning me a Long Call trip. I confirmed it with our ALPA scheduling guy in Herndon (who does an awesome job, by the way).
So long story short: they can't
double dip, per se, because we still need the entire 12 hours, not just an FAR minimum rest.
Clear as mud?