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Old 11-20-2012, 05:59 AM
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Sunvox
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Default One reason to vote yes.

To the CAL pilots that want to work together I hope you will forgive the following, but this is a post I made in another thread, and I feel strongly it is not being considered seriously enough by L-UAL voters on this forum so it deserved it's own thread. Anyways here it is:



The interests of UAL-ALPA and CAL-ALPA are at polar opposites and if this contract goes back to management I believe absolutely 100% that the CAL side will shoot down any future agreement because most of the reasons for voting no are completely opposite on the two properties so there is no way to "sweeten" the offer that will be acceptable and therefore we will end up with a USAir tragedy of epic proportions and ruin the careers of the entire L-UAL pilot group. Step one will be the retirement of the 757 fleet forcing massive layoffs at L-UAL and step two will be placing all new NB jet orders at L-CAL. L-UAL will become a much smaller widebody only company with no growth and no contract. We need to complete the SLI to align the pilot group interests and THEN fight for a better future. Is this contract "Good". No. Is this contract enough to make it another 5 years before I'm willing to go on strike? Yes.

I believe strongly the fight here is with CAL-ALPA right now and NOT management. They put in pay banding comparing a 767 to a 747 while separating a 757-200 from a 757-300, they put in LOA 25, and they (CAL-ALPA) have said publicly they can live with no contract indefinitely because life's pretty good in their eyes with lots of movement and shiny new planes on their side. I'm closing my eyes and pinching my nose and voting yes to the TA, but I'm gonna expect big things in 2017-2019. Nothing in life good comes fast and sadly the political reality of this bargaining process has seriously handicapped the L-UAL pilot group.

Joe Peck
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