Old 11-21-2012 | 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
If the mediator did indeed do as you claimed, then why do the proposed pay rates, work rules, and code share protections fall short of DAL pilots contract? And what garbage are you spewing about DC9 size aircraft being given to express? I haven't seen a DC9-10 or equivalent size being flown by UAL or CAL for well over 15 years. And if you're referring to the CRJ900/EMB175, you really have no argument there. You see the 86,000 lbs 76 seat max has been in place for 3 contracts now. It hasn't changed, yet we keep receiving raises. On this last TA DAL management wanted an 82 seat limit, & our negotiating committee said "Yes, but they'll be flown at mainline". Management decided to stay at 76 seats.

Oh, and we are also still flying DC9-50s. And next year we will begin to fly B717's which will have even less seats then the DC9-50 & will result in MORE mainline flying and LESS outsourced jobs. Once you're able to grasp that, maybe you'll start to understand how DAL pilots are creating more mainline jobs in the long run.

It's nice how you like to blame all scope issues on DAL. You never seem to acknowledge the fact that Us Air has outsourced 86 seat scope for years now. Maybe we should blame UAL for crappy pay & pathetic work rules. After all, you've failed to improve them for how long? Been working under BK wages for how long? Good luck on shooting it down & recapturing that scope. I look forward to you proving many of us wrong.
Our pay rates actually surpass DAL's by year 3.

Work rules were tough since CAL's were so bad to begin with. We are actually fighting a war on several fronts...one being with management and another with CAL ALPA and their illustrious leader.

I guess I just don't understand why we have to beg for the privilege of flying our own passengers.

When I refer to "DC-9" size airplanes, that's right on the mark. Look at the gross weights of early DC-9's.
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