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Old 11-22-2012 | 09:31 PM
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kingairfun
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Originally Posted by ShortBus_Driver
A few questions for those able and willing to answer:

1) I missed the last hiring window opening, but I had applied during the previous window. Is it possible for me to still update my app or do I have to wait for the window to re-open again? I think you can always update but I believe unless you hit the "APPLY" button during the open window it won't get seen by anybody. And I believe that every year they "system dump" so your application from 2 years ago is gone. Just the info you typed in remains.

2) ALPC states HA has contractual pay bumps for 2013 and 2014, anyone know what percentage those pay raises are? Not sure of the %.. But FO pay is a percentage of Captain pay depending on years of service... On APC it states that 2nd year widebody pay is $90. But in reality it is $93.xx for a second year guy in 2013... In 2014, 2nd year pay is a bit more..

3) Is there a mandatory retirement list posted anywhere for HA like the ones posted on this site for many of the other majors?HAl publishes one which was posted on our company website... Don't think it can be found anywhere else... In general I'm planning on about 20-25+/- retirements average for the next 5-10+ years... Right now if the company grows to the numbers I've heard, I'm roughly estimating upgrade between years 6-10... Realistically I'm tentatively "planning" on upgrade around year 7... (Based on attrition, growth schedule, my place on the seniority list, and fudge factors)Subject to change (I've been in the business just long enough to know not to ever count on upgrading)

Thanks and Happy Thanksgiving!
In my research I've found that pay at Hawaiian does seem to progress faster than many other Legacy carriers. And with the small pilot numbers and expected growth/attrition, many hired over the last 2 years may be in a great position in a few years. Far ahead of any peers at other Legacies.
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