Sled I was on the phone yesterday with Brian Finley, a United SPSC rep. He kept wanting to give me the party line example you just quoted. I said I want to talk about the guy that was at United for 7 or 8 years and has now been at CAL for over a year. He eventually agreed that that pilot is going to get 5 year pay upon signing, he will not even get longevity for the years he was on the property, much less his years on furlough. Even after the SLI, our pay will be restricted by the following language "provided further that the application of such additional credit does not result in any s-United pilot having a pay longevity date that is earlier than the pay longevity date of the next most senior s-Continental pilot." So if the SLI goes as CAL wants and the furloughed United pilots get stapled, a 2008 hire will be senior to all of the United pilots hired in 1999 and 2000 that have up to 9 years on the combined property. That CAL pilot has 4 or 5 years. We do not get longevity credit, we have been carved out.