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Old 11-30-2012 | 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Check Essential
What I can't figure out is why DALPA is so compliant with all this.
Our top end aircraft and most desirable routes are being slowly phased out and the union sends out these JV agreements with a smile and self-congratulations. WT* are they thinking?

They are proud of their accomplishments because the destruction of our international route structure is now written into our contract? They tell us management doesn't need our permission to do these deals so we give them our permission to do these deals and claim victory? How is that a good thing?

Is the MEC in a trance?
The ghost of Moak and his "whatever is good for the corporation is good for the pilots" philosophy is still haunting us. Constructive engagement has to have a limit. We can not continue to allow our jobs to be outsourced or we will be extinct.
Extremely well said!!!!!

I find it interesting that T and I are on the same side of the viewpoint on this one. Not a barb at all T. However, I saw the TA as a scope loss (viable long term hulls) and you saw it as scope recapture (reduction in outsourced seats). In this case, it is a scope loss ("but they can feed our domestic jets" - what a fly on the wall of the echo chamber maybe heard).

If this new JV was short term, it might be OK for a year or two. Isn't the US mostly where the people come from on these Australia round trips? Aren't we the airline with the US roots and routes? Shouldn't we be the winners in this JV?